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Harry and Snape
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jazminek Muggle  Joined: Jan 6, 2009 House: Gryffindor Points: 10 |
When I read the seventh book I started to think that in a twisted sort of way Snape really did love Harry. What do you guys think? No matter what you guys think Snape loved Harry.
Updated Jan 21, 2009 at 6:48 PM by jazminek |
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fawkes song Student  Joined: May 3, 2006 House: Gryffindor Points: 225 
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I don't think Snape loved Harry. He loved Lily and he felt obligated to protect Harry because of Lily's death. Harry learned to understand Snape and forgive and respect him. He knew the true reason behind Snape's actions in the end.
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Viking Student  Joined: Dec 2, 2005 House: Slytherin Points: 245 |
I think Snape did not love Harry, rather he was his responsibility towards Lily, a commitment of protecting Lily's love and last deed .. it even had nothing to do with evil's downfall (Voldemort's). All he knew that he was working to let on live Lily's greatest ever love, her son. And he chose to give 'anything' to protect Lily, at any cost.
It's a very complex emotion to live with sanely, as Harry was also his most-hated person's son (relation between him and James could not just be freindly bantering of High School, the hatred was so deep, he was prepared to kill Sirius without a haste!) I must admit that I can't say I love this guy, but he was definitely a cool and brilliant character |
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ck2d Witch  Joined: Jan 22, 2007 House: Gryffindor Points: 907 |
I think Snape would have loved Harry if he had ever allowed himself to. Does that make any sense? I think way too much of Snape's life was built around detesting Harry for him to ever let go and even like him. But in the end I think he respected him, and if he could have let go of his hate (really, if both of them could) then they could have had as tight a bond as Harry and Dumbledore did.
But that would mean the entire series would have had to have been rewritten... |
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ravenclaw chick Professor  Joined: Dec 23, 2004 House: Ravenclaw Points: 1018 
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I agree with ck2d, he never allowed himself to get past the resentment to even like Harry. He resented Harry because to him, Harry is living proof of Severus' failure. And who wouldn't hate that?
But, I agree, I think in the end, he respected Harry. |
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greatheart Order of Merlin, 4th Class  Joined: Oct 13, 2006 House: Ravenclaw Points: 1205 |
Snape never loved, nor even liked, Harry. Harry was a living reminder of everything wrong with Snape's life and choices. BUT, Snape owed it to Lily to protect her son. The fact that Harry took after his father just made it worse.
And it must have galled Snape to see Lily's eyes in someone he detested. All in all, a painful situation for Snape. |
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hotemma Student  Joined: Feb 17, 2007 House: Gryffindor Points: 202 |
No Snape never loved Harry. But he cared for him (not too much) because he was Lily's son.
Harry learned to understand Snape and forgive and respect him. He knew the true reason behind Snape's actions in the end. It take a heart like Harry's to forget that long hatred! |
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Professor Sharkey Muggle  Joined: Feb 14, 2009 House: Slytherin Points: 21 |
I have never liked Harry Potter because of his arragent father. He used curses on me when I was young and I accidently just did the 'Cruciatus Curse' on him and he begged me to stop it, but I couldnt becasue of all the things he did to me . . .
Severus Snape |
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ReggieLess Muggle  Joined: Mar 19, 2009 House: Ravenclaw Points: 23 |
I can't wrap my mind around someone like Snape focusing his mind solely on loving Lily. He was far too intelligent and independent for that.
That said, I do believe he cared for her, and possibly wanted to care for Harry because of that. There were two things against him expressing that. One was that he couldn't so he could keep the charade that he hated the Boy Who Lived so he wouldn't raise any eyebrows in the DE circuit. The second is that their relationship started off on the wrong start. Snape may have felt he could have shown some leniency toward him but, upon seeing Harry glaring at him, it reminded him of James. If Harry had instead sorted into Slytherin or events had gone differently in another way, perhaps he wouldn't have been as annoyed as he was. |
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ForbiddenFears Muggle  Joined: Jul 16, 2007 House: Slytherin Points: 16 |
ReggieLess ~ "I can't wrap my mind around someone like Snape focusing his mind solely on loving Lily. He was far too intelligent and independent for that."
Yes but you realise that Lily was a companion through most of his childhood and school years? Besides he's human aswell, that doesnt stop him 'falling in love' like everyone else. He didnt use reserve back then because no experience told him to. He eventually did learn that. |
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Swish! Witch  Joined: Nov 27, 2004 House: Gryffindor Points: 703 |
ReggieLess - "I can't wrap my mind around someone like Snape focusing his mind solely on loving Lily. He was far too intelligent and independent for that."
Well, thats what its like to be in love. Yes, Snape was brillian, intelligent and independent. But he never took his mind of Lily! What else did he have? And otherwise, I agree with previous posts. I dont think Snape loved Harry. He just wanted to make sure that he survived no mather what. He did it for Lily. |
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HPfanatic505 Wizard  Joined: Jan 5, 2006 House: Ravenclaw Points: 896 
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Yeah, if Snape would have loved Harry at all it would've been because of the part of Harry that is similar to his mother. Snape loved Lilly and wished to protect Harry because he is her son. I don't think Snape hated Harry nearly as much as it seems he did, more so he treated him badly because of the way that James treated Snape. In the end Snape did the right thing for the right reasons.
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MissMalfoy001 Squib  Joined: Jul 28, 2009 House: Gryffindor Points: 151 |
I think snape may have wanted to protect him for lily but never did love him. I think he was too angry and resentful to harry for being James son and the cause of lilys death to ever let himself love harry. I think that if snape had gotten past that he may have a small inkling of love for harry
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Meche Student Joined: Aug 13, 2006 House: Ravenclaw Points: 286 |
I have to side with Snape; he was certainly heavily invested in Harry's survival, and watched him more than Harry would ever know. Harry, on the other hand, was too busy feeling put-upon and hiding behind his pride to acknowledge that Snape had his number in many ways. He was a bit lazy, not arrogant; and his pride combined with what many people would term nosiness was almost lethal in a few instances. Harry's formidable pride also prevented him from learning from one of the most brilliant minds in the wizarding world. Very humbling/mortifying to find out how much he couldn't hate him after finding out Snape's story.
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xHarryPotterx Muggle  Joined: May 24, 2009 House: Gryffindor Points: 19 |
I think Snape didn't love harry, I think he jsut cared about his desicions. (I think I spelled it right.)
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MissMalfoy001 Squib Joined: Jul 28, 2009 House: Gryffindor Points: 151 |
Now that I think of it Snape probably didn't love Harry. He protected him like he protected Draco. But only for Lily because he knew that's what she would have wanted him to do if she couldn't do it herself.
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Severous Snape Head Boy  Joined: Nov 17, 2005 House: Gryffindor Points: 453 |
My opinion is that Snape treated harry like that for the same reason Ms Figg did..None of us would think that Voldemort would welcome him back if he showed even the slightest bits of love towards him..Yes I know we didn;t know voldemort would come back but Dunbledore and Snape did know and consider the possibility..Snape also saw in Harry his greatest Love and greatest Hatred..that is what I believe..
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Uncilvilized Serpent Muggle  Joined: Jul 15, 2009 House: Slytherin Points: 11 
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Snape loved Lily and when he looked at Harry's eyes he SAW Lily. I think he could have loved him if he didn't look so much likes James, whom Severus loathed. It was all in the eyes :)
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nomen nescio Muggle Joined: Aug 31, 2009 House: Slytherin Points: 56 |
Severus is a good and nice guy.. Harry was wierd all this years and he could never be polite or nice to him. Harry hate Sev, and Sev was just trying to help him cause he loves his mother.
Updated Sep 21, 2009 at 7:11 PM by nomen nescio |
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robhol Muggle Joined: Oct 27, 2009 House: Ravenclaw Points: 3 |
I think that Snape must have disliked Harry quite a lot, due to his parents and resemblance to them. Snape did not only hate James Potter from before, but THEN James married his all-time "true love" and Harry, in many ways, is a symbol of that union. And, of course, once Harry entered school, they didn't really get any reasons to like eachother any more than they already did.
However, Snape is intelligent enough not to let his feelings get the better of him most of the time - he also has moral and emotional obligations due to his ties with Dumbledore and Lily, and I can easily see those matter rather more than a personal grudge. Which is why we see him repeatedly trying to save Harry, like the broom jinx counterspell in PS/SS, and the (admittedly misguided) "rescue mission" to/from the Shrieking Shack in PoA, and the taunting about Occlumency when he (Snape) is escaping from Hogwarts in HBP. I think that this taunting is yet another way of trying to get Harry to learn. Bottom line: I think Snape never liked Harry, but that his positive actions towards him were because of his ties to Lily and Dumbledore. Harry disliked and hated Snape (from Harry's point of view with extremely good reason) until he saw the real story via the Pensieve. Updated Nov 4, 2009 at 12:27 PM by robhol |
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